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Episode 43: The One Where The Robots Take Over

September 17, 2024 • Matt & Jayce • Season 3 • Episode 43

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Hey Xer's it's the latest and dare I say, most robotic, episode of XRadioX we've ever produced! Maybe the episode with the fake, robotic baby is a bit more robotic than this one. Maybe not?

Anyway...

It's episode 43 and Matt and I tackle the question of Robots and Radio. Ever since you could automate a cart deck to go to the next cart deck with a tone, radio station owners have been trying to strike that balance of automation, scheduling efficiencies and the eternal question of... Do I really need these pesky "personalities" to make this station LIVE and LOCAL. Spoiler Alert... You do, no matter what your reps tell you.

Matt and I do a little talking about AI (Chatty) and how well the algorithm is not only programming your video feeds on YouTube but it's also influencing your music choices. Think about it... If you were into alternative college rock in the 90's, how different is your music feed now versus then? You know it all sounds like late 90's Foo Fighters with a mix of Seven Mary Three, for you know... Variety. You can thank your previous music tastes and Spotty for making every song you like to listen to a variation of Monkey Wrench, Hey Man, Nice Shot and Cumbersome... You know, for variety.

Basically whether you like it our not the robots are taking over.

We also play a game where I totally kick Chatty's robot ass. Go on and listen. You won't be upset.

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jmfmedia
Well, good evening, everybody. Or good morning, depending on when you are listening to this. This is, yeah I don't even know what episode we're on anymore, Matt, but it is X Radio X.

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Matty Boombalatty
Welcome.

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jmfmedia
Do you know what episode we're on? I don't know what episode we're on.

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Matty Boombalatty
I think we're like on 45 ish 44 ish.

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jmfmedia
We'll say that we're 44, 45. We're in.

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Matty Boombalatty
If we had a computer that could keep track for us and then that would be something that maybe would be a useful use of a computer, but that's kind of on the topic actually.

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jmfmedia
that Yes.

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jmfmedia
Yes, it's, yeah, that that is, that so I'm told that is the topic of today.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, so what we're going to do is I've been thinking a lot about this and in the way that it reflects on music and radio, because we love talking about radio and I've been thinking a lot, you have an Alexa, right?

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jmfmedia
right

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jmfmedia
I do, I have one, two, three of them.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. So we have several, we have almost one in every house and we've, we're very used to asking her questions and asking her to play music. And one of the things I noticed about doing that on the regular is that she, I call her a she, it's not a gender, but I say, I know.

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jmfmedia
I was like, that's very sexist of you, sir. Is it just because she, in quotes, does things for you? Is that why you call Alexis that? You're assuming it's gender.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yes, that's why. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So anyway, uh, so when you ask your tiny robot, which is what we call it around the house so that she doesn't listen ah eavesdrop on her conversations, but I think she does anyway.

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jmfmedia
We do that too. That's because of you, by the way. We also call ours tiny robot.

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Matty Boombalatty
So when we have time.

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Matty Boombalatty
When we have our tiny robot play music, sometimes she you know she listens to what we say, and sometimes she plays a song. Sometimes she'll she'll shoot us down and play something that sounds similar to what we asked for. And depending on if she used Spotify or if she used Amazon Music or whatever it might be, then that program will then extrapolate by use of some sort of formula what music that they want to play in addition to the song or artist that we suggested. And in the guise of being helpful, it is computers guiding us into what we listen to.

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jmfmedia
Yes, welcome to the algorithm.

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Matty Boombalatty
And that's weird. I know. And so this algorithm now, instead of a DJ or instead of a even really ah ah a program director, it is a computer looking at ones and zeros and saying, this series of ones and zeros I think sounds similar to that series of ones and zeros. And so I'm going to make this chain of ones and zeros for you to listen to. And you'll probably get why I picked each of these songs.

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Matty Boombalatty
It's weird how good it is. That's one of the things. like It's spooky how it can do what it does, don't you think?

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jmfmedia
Yeah, it is a little bit spooky, but that's how databases work. when you Everything is a database and everything is based on columns and rows of names and titles and descriptions.

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jmfmedia
And now they can even suck all of the musical information out of it and compare it to other songs.

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Matty Boombalatty
that part.

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jmfmedia
It it does it doesn't even need it doesn't even really need the database anymore. It just sucks all the you know lyrics and music out and it measures them against other songs. And now it says, we know better than you.

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jmfmedia
You'll enjoy this.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. And that's the part that creeps me out because now it doesn't just say, okay, this is an artist and this is another song by that artist, or this is a song that has the word sunshine in it.

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Matty Boombalatty
So here are a bunch of other songs that have sunshine. It's actually somehow transmitting the data of the beats and the tones and the sounds and the vocals and finding other music that has similar qualities.

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Matty Boombalatty
And I am scared that computers can do that, frankly.

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jmfmedia
No, what you're scared of is that one day you're going to be listening to, I don't know cakes the distance because I know you like cakes. so I'm just using that band.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, mm-hmm.

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jmfmedia
And somewhere down the line, it's going to read an article from the mid nineties that somebody in cake liked Slayer. And then it's going to play a Slayer song for you're you to be like, damn it, it was right.

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jmfmedia
I do like Slayer. And then it's, and then that's what you're afraid of. You're afraid that the computer does know what you want.

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Matty Boombalatty
All right. And there's the element of that as well. I'm not going to disagree with you, but it's weird.

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jmfmedia
I'm afraid I'm going to like Slayer. yeah Says Matt, not Jace.

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Matty Boombalatty
So, so the computers are getting, the computers are getting smarter. They are starting to read our thoughts. I think that's what what I'm taking from this.

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jmfmedia
Yes.

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Matty Boombalatty
They're starting to read our minds. They are starting to know what we want more than we do in a way. And

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jmfmedia
They're starting to know what you want because of unconscious things that you do and you don't even realize you're doing it, saying it, typing it in, or clicking on it and viewing it. Like you're randomly clicking on stuff, thinking you know what you're clicking on, but it's base instincts and different things that are going on in your brain.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

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jmfmedia
Your reptile brain is making you want to do stuff and the internet collects all that information. Don't let anybody lie to you and say, oh, this is safe mode and this is this mode. It's all out there and they're saving all of it.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. Right. Okay, so we've got that. We've got computers who are who are picking music for us.

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jmfmedia
Yep.

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Matty Boombalatty
Now we've got the ability to have, obviously we've had this for a while, but people, computers, writing scripts of dialogue or even recording dialogue so that We have the music being picked by computers. We have talking that can be done by computers. We have a program director that can be a computer. So is there a benefit after all these episodes of our podcast that we've talked about humans being important and local and talking about real things so that people can make that connection. Is that a viable model in radio anymore?

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Matty Boombalatty
Or is it better because they're smart enough to just have a computer do everything? Jace, answer this for me.

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jmfmedia
so So, so if you are going to just have a jukebox, which is really what most radio stations are anymore, they're pre-programmed.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

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jmfmedia
It comes down from the mothership, whatever giant conglomerate owns your cluster of stations.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

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jmfmedia
It is decided outside of your market. If you're a hot AC station, these are the, you know, 100 songs that are allowed to be on your station. So it's already kind of been decided and it comes down to you at local, you know, radio station somewhere USA. And it says, Hey, local one person running the station, maybe two, if you have a local morning show, um, here's your hundred songs.

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jmfmedia
But these are the 30 you have to play. And this is when you have to play them. And this is you know the times of days they get played and it gets played once every 65 minutes because this is when our listener turnover goes and all of that. So what I'm getting at by saying all of that is technically the way most music stations are run these days, especially in mid to small markets, ah no.

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jmfmedia
They don't necessarily need nor care if they have somebody there running the board running the controls telling you the weather telling you what's going on in local news because what they'll do is they'll have that one person who works in six different stations there then they'll make sure that they're in different, you know, listening groups and they'll have you this jockey

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

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jmfmedia
cut a liner for this one, or not a liner, but a spot. Here's the top of the hour. Here's 15. Here's 20. Here's 30. And here's 45. And you will do that for six different stations in your cluster.

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jmfmedia
And you will do it with a little bit of a different name. If you're really good, you'll do it with a little bit of a different accent or tone in your voice.

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Matty Boombalatty
and Yeah.

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jmfmedia
And that's what it that's what they do now. Now, there are some groups that are hiring local people to do it. um I don't know how good it's going for them, but I know that they're out there, but it's not like it used to be.

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jmfmedia
If you want, you can't just rely on music anymore because people don't listen. Generally, and this is just Jay speaking. People aren't tuning in, especially anybody younger than probably the age of 30, tuning into a radio station to go, hey, what's the new thing?

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Matty Boombalatty
Sure.

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jmfmedia
They're listening. They're finding it on TikTok.

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Matty Boombalatty
Damn it, TikTok.

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jmfmedia
there That's where a vast majority. Yeah. Well, I mean, do you have Sirius XM?

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Matty Boombalatty
No, I don't.

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jmfmedia
So we just bought a car and it comes with X amount of time of Sirius XM.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

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jmfmedia
And I will tell you what, I love Sirius XM.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. It's nice. Okay.

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jmfmedia
All kinds of radio stations. They do have disc jockeys. i am I know that a lot of them go from station to station, but you still get a little bit of that person. At least I think they're people. um But one of the stations is literally called TikTok radio.

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Matty Boombalatty
Oh dear god.

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jmfmedia
Yeah, so they have made a station, which is essentially a playlist out of songs made famous on TikTok.

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Matty Boombalatty
Okay so Jace, let me stop you right there and tell you exactly what I'm hearing from what you are saying. There was a time when radio used a computer as a tool to produce radio for the masses and now The computers are going to use one or two humans as tools to accomplish the parts of their programming that they can't physically do themselves. So now the computers are in charge and the people are the tools that just sit there and record voices, which now that we have chat GPT, now that we have things that can mimic a human voice, we are no longer a necessary tool in the process.

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jmfmedia
No, it's getting, uh, I see where you're going on this road and it is getting to the point where, um, non-humans can mimic us well enough.

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Matty Boombalatty
Damn it.

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jmfmedia
If we give them the scripts and you technically probably wouldn't need one of us to run a music station anymore, you could probably have multiple people on that station.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

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jmfmedia
And it wouldn't matter if they're human because it's getting that good.

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Matty Boombalatty
And also to the point that you were mentioning about recording spots, I know several people who are, who are business professionals who use chat beat GPT on the daily to write their scripts, to write letters to, um, to vendors or to different contractors to make sure that they're professional and they, you know, have all the content they want and they're succinct and they sound, you know, intelligent. And so rather than say.

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Matty Boombalatty
You know, dear Mr. Contractor, I would like to assign this project for you. And here, so they just say, chat GPT, write a letter, address it to this contractor's name, and say XYZ, and make it really fancy, and go.

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Matty Boombalatty
And then chat GPT is like, I'm going to start calling it chatty, just because it's hard to say chat GPT.

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jmfmedia
Chatty. Yeah.

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Matty Boombalatty
Chatty says, all right, here we go. broop And it takes a few seconds, spits out a very nice letter. So if you said, Hey, I want to write a 30 second spot. I want it to be exactly 30 seconds.

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Matty Boombalatty
Actually, I want it to be 28 seconds. So we have intro music, outro music. I want it to be 28 seconds of of speech. I want it to talk about public service garage and I want it to be, you know, mentioning that we rotate your tires, go.

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Matty Boombalatty
And then chatty's like, well, it used to be, I don't know if it's still around.

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jmfmedia
Public service gar garage. Is that a real place?

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Matty Boombalatty
It was a Marquette. Anyway, uh, and then chatty just says, here we go.

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jmfmedia
Oh.

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Matty Boombalatty
Boom. And it's done. Like I have been dabbling with chat GPT. Okay. I have to admit, and I, I do strongly believe I would never use it for any.

00:12:07.51
jmfmedia
Mm-hmm.

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Matty Boombalatty
Purposes I wanted to take credit for, but when you are just playing around with it as a tool for how smart it is, it is scary. In fact, before we get any further,

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Matty Boombalatty
I think one second here.

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Matty Boombalatty
I had chat GPT write our disclaimer.

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jmfmedia
Awesome, because I just had chat GPT write a 30 second radio spot for us.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

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jmfmedia
So go.

00:12:37.43
Matty Boombalatty
All right, so here's our disclaimer, thanks to Chaddy. Welcome to X Radio X, the podcast where we aim to bring you fun, informative, and entertaining content. Before you dive into our episodes, we want to make sure that our young listeners and their guardians are aware of the following. By the way, I just said write a disclaimer and mentioned we use bad words.

00:12:56.29
Matty Boombalatty
ah Language Alert, our podcast hosted by two dynamic individuals, occasionally includes strong language. While we strive to keep the content lively and engaging, some episodes may feature explicit words such as damn, hell, and crap. We want to ensure that parents and guardians are aware of this before allowing young listeners to tune in. Despite the use of occasional strong language, X-Radio X is dedicated to delivering an entertaining and informative experience. Our discussions cover a wide range of topics with enthusiasm, humor, and a commitment to providing valuable insights.

00:13:26.22
Matty Boombalatty
We appreciate your understanding and hope you enjoy the show while keeping this in mind. Thank you for listening to X Radio X.

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jmfmedia
Two things come to mind.

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Matty Boombalatty
What the damn hell crap was that?

00:13:39.13
jmfmedia
ah Maybe three things come to mind. First off, anybody who knows either you or me has met us and talked to us for under five minutes would know that would never come out of either one of our mouths.

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Matty Boombalatty
yeah

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jmfmedia
Or would we ever write it?

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Matty Boombalatty
It's way more professional.

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jmfmedia
It's way too professional, it's way too long, neither one of us care that much whether your kid is offended by us saying fuck or shit.

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Matty Boombalatty
No, no, there you go.

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jmfmedia
Why? Because I say that around my own house.

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Matty Boombalatty
And, and I didn't tell it to specify which words we would use. It just chose damn hell and crap. Uh, which I know this chat GPT is.

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jmfmedia
Which we probably use those the least out of any of the bad words.

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Matty Boombalatty
Scary I also had it just because I was playing and having fun. I had it describe you and me Yeah There you go, yeah It was It was a very official disclaimer to cover our asses if there's a lawsuit so I mean to cover our damn hell craps if there's a lawsuit so I

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jmfmedia
Well, hold on. it And the other thing it made me think of when you read that, I'm like, did chat GPT write that or did a lawyer write that? That literally sounds like something a lawyer would write. Here's a disclaimer for you to cover everything we could possibly have an issue with. That's what a lawyer is going to write.

00:14:53.11
jmfmedia
Yes. Our damn hell craps.

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Matty Boombalatty
Thank you, chat Chatty. ah So anyway, i had I had her, Chatty, describe you and I.

00:15:02.24
jmfmedia
oh No, no.

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Matty Boombalatty
ah For you, I said, describe Jace the Ace and mention that he has salt and pepper hair. okay That's all I said. I didn't give them any any other information.

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jmfmedia
the

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Matty Boombalatty
Jace the Ace is the embodiment of timeless charisma and effortless cool. With a mane of distinguished salt and pepper hair that adds a touch of silver sophistication, he exudes an air of refined elegance and rugged charm. His presence commands attention like a vintage jazz tune. Every stra they really went for it every strand of his graying hair tells tales of adventures and wisdom.

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Matty Boombalatty
Jace's personality sparkles with the same brilliance as his hair, blending a youthful zest for life with the seasoned grace of someone who's seen it all. He's the kind of individual who's every whose very essence turns every moment into a memorable experience, proving that true style only improves with age.

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jmfmedia
I take back everything I said about chat GPT.

00:16:02.52
Matty Boombalatty
me

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jmfmedia
It nailed me correctly.

00:16:09.12
Matty Boombalatty
She's got you like she really that she, unless she knows you, like maybe she does.

00:16:10.61
jmfmedia
Got me.

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jmfmedia
I mean, that is exactly what a human or a computer would write about a guy who is talking to another guy, you know, a quarter of the way across the United States while wearing a shirt that has people throwing discus and shot put because his kids are in the track and field team and has an NASCAR hat on currently.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, exactly.

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jmfmedia
That's what they would write about a person like that.

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Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, i think she I think she nailed it. So to describe me, I basically said describe Matt and make sure you mention David Bryan.

00:16:49.47
jmfmedia
keep Hold on.

00:16:49.64
Matty Boombalatty
so

00:16:50.48
jmfmedia
Yeah, you don't have gray hair, so I guess we can't use that qualifier for you.

00:16:52.43
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, I had to do something. So she said, Matt is a vibrant whirlwind of creativity and flair, a dynamic presence reminiscent of a rock concert's electrifying energy. Oh, I put Matt and then proof rock in parentheses because I wanted to give her a little more information.

00:17:10.42
Matty Boombalatty
With a name that echoes the literary sophistication of TS Eliot's renowned character, he blends intellectual depth with an exuberant zest for life. His charisma shines as brightly as David Bryan's iconic keyboards in a Bon Jovi anthem, adding a distinct rhythm and flair to every endeavor. Just as Bryan's artistry transforms the ordinary into the extraordinary, Prufrock's essence is a mosaic of vivid passions and bold ideas turning every interaction into an unforgettable experience.

00:17:39.28
Matty Boombalatty
His infectious enthusiasm and artistic brilliance make him a standout star, echoing the transformative magic of a true rock and roll maestro.

00:17:50.12
jmfmedia
Wow. You could have at least told chat GPT. I play guitar.

00:17:53.91
Matty Boombalatty
She's good.

00:17:56.67
jmfmedia
At least you got David Bryant and I got gray hair. Thanks ass.

00:18:01.40
Matty Boombalatty
um I feel like she was very complimentary to both of us.

00:18:04.54
jmfmedia
and She was. Yes. And, um, wow. And you're a rock and roll whirlwind of charisma. Is that what I got out of that?

00:18:10.69
Matty Boombalatty
Uh, something to that effect. I mean, you know, it's not something that people just already say about me.

00:18:15.90
jmfmedia
And yeah, I mean, Chet GPT does know us very well, it seems like.

00:18:20.10
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. So, okay. So, so what I, the thing is, so we've got the Alexa, we've got tiny robot, we have AI, we have chat GPT. We now have over the last couple of years, and I'm sure you've heard these, if you haven't, that there are.

00:18:34.82
Matty Boombalatty
new songs being generated by artists that are dead. So AI has now the ability to take a deceased artist's vocals and I am going to mention the Beatles, but there's so many more.

00:18:46.22
jmfmedia
Is this the Beatles thing?

00:18:49.57
jmfmedia
Okay.

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Matty Boombalatty
So one of them, um, yeah, there's so many.

00:18:51.23
jmfmedia
Oh, is there?

00:18:53.74
Matty Boombalatty
So like the Beatles used back in 95 when the anthologies came out, they had a demo of the song now and then that John Lennon recorded and it was on a cassette and they couldn't really take, they just basically but played it as is because they couldn't really do anything with it. But in the last couple of years, in 2022, they had the technology to separate, they basically told a computer, this is what John Lennon sounds like. This is what a guitar sounds like. Separate those two songs, those two noises from this audio

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Matty Boombalatty
cassette and AI was like, yeah, it sounds good. Boom. And did it. So then they rerecorded their stuff on top of it. And that's how now and then that song that came out, I want to say it came out in 2023 maybe, but that's how they did that.

00:19:44.94
jmfmedia
Couple years ago, I think year a year two ago.

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Matty Boombalatty
They took an old cassette and AI separated the two things. And then they recorded new, um, you know, music, new, new instrumentation, new vocals, but it was John's voice.

00:20:00.78
Matty Boombalatty
And, and, and they added, they were able to do another Beatles song, but not only that, so they've used, there's an organization called, um, over the bridge. They're a nonprofit mental health organization.

00:20:12.63
Matty Boombalatty
They made a, an online thing.

00:20:13.22
jmfmedia
Okay.

00:20:16.75
Matty Boombalatty
It was called the lost tapes of the 27 club. Have you heard about this?

00:20:20.86
jmfmedia
No, this is, I'm interested in this podcast that you're doing with me along in it because I don't know any of this. I knew the Beatles thing, but this I don't know about.

00:20:27.54
Matty Boombalatty
So. Yeah. So, so over the bridge, they, they used, I do the referee.

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jmfmedia
Oh, hold on. Do you hear that? Do you hear that?

00:20:35.96
jmfmedia
Do you hear that in my house? We have a cat fight going on in my house and my dog who is half the size of both cats is helping. So this is what you're picking up in the background.

00:20:47.04
Matty Boombalatty
Got it. Okay, cool. So over the bridge, use two different AIs. They used one AI that's designed specifically to, to write lyrics to songs.

00:20:58.23
Matty Boombalatty
And then they use another AI that is specifically designed to mimic voices and they fed, you know, the, the 27 club or all those artists that died at 27 Amy Winehouse, Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Jim Orson.

00:21:04.30
jmfmedia
Okay.

00:21:09.22
jmfmedia
Kurt Cobain, Janice Joplin, Jimi Hendrix. Yeah.

00:21:12.75
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. So, um, they made new songs for all of those artists and. couple of them are really good. Like it's creepy. Um, but you can, you can check it out on the internet, the lost tapes of the 27 club and, and, and over the bridge has a website too. You can look at that, but they have at least captured the the tone and the style and, and the Amy Winehouse one's really good. The Nirvana one's a little weird. Um, cause I think with Kurt Cobain's voice, it's hard to really mimic that. Like it's very.

00:21:52.26
Matty Boombalatty
And tonally it's different, but anyway, so that one's a little weird, but the, the, the song structure is very similar to an Nirvana song. The Jimi Hendrix one is, is weird. The guitar is amazing. It's, but it's so strange that two computers got together.

00:22:10.81
Matty Boombalatty
and made music that sounds like these these long dead or recently dead artists. It's it's very strange. um I don't know what to make of it because that opens up a whole different can of worms about could those songs be on the radio? Could you have a computer programming songs made by a computer with computer generated commercials in between and literally no people involved?

00:22:36.68
jmfmedia
Well, what made me even think of more, because I have to deal with things like this at work from time to time, is if you had two computers get together and, you know, do what computers do when they get together ah and they they mimic, you know, somebody from the 27 Club or even somebody who's alive, for crying out loud, and they create a new song out of it, who owns that copyright?

00:22:46.31
Matty Boombalatty
Make babies.

00:23:00.60
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:23:02.74
jmfmedia
Who owns that song?

00:23:02.80
Matty Boombalatty
Right. Yeah.

00:23:04.99
jmfmedia
because it's hard enough to get copyright permission from actual alive people and lawyers and companies that own this music.

00:23:05.16
Matty Boombalatty
And it's.

00:23:13.16
jmfmedia
Now, if we have computers doing it, um, is it the person who owns a computer, the person who wrote the program, the person who programmed the, uh, I guess the program to make it do all of the things, or is it the copyright holders that you're mimicking or sampling?

00:23:28.69
jmfmedia
Somebody could make an argument to get that sound.

00:23:32.14
Matty Boombalatty
But if it's, yeah, exactly. So if it's a new song, it's not a cover. And if it's a new artist who happens to be a robot, who just mimics someone's voice, we've had real artists mimic other people's voices and make music.

00:23:37.41
jmfmedia
Mm hmm.

00:23:46.66
Matty Boombalatty
I mean,

00:23:47.95
jmfmedia
There was actually I don't have the specifics, and I might even have part of this wrong because I read this. This is in passing a couple of weeks ago. So there's an artist out there. And I know Matt is just just loves him. He goes by the moniker of young gravy.

00:24:06.84
jmfmedia
I knew I was waiting. I was like, oh, he's going to love this. He's going to thank me later.

00:24:09.64
Matty Boombalatty
Please tell me he's a robot.

00:24:11.64
jmfmedia
He is not he's from Minnesota, so he is definitely not a robot.

00:24:17.63
jmfmedia
Anywho, he had a song called, I believe it was Betty Get Money or something like that, where it sounded like Rick Astley.

00:24:23.99
Matty Boombalatty
Yes. Sure did.

00:24:26.22
jmfmedia
He was sampling Rick Astley, but he wasn't.

00:24:29.51
Matty Boombalatty
Right.

00:24:30.72
jmfmedia
It was I want to say it was one of his co-writers, was doing a really good impersonation of or something along those lines.

00:24:37.16
Matty Boombalatty
Hmm.

00:24:39.64
jmfmedia
So there was a big lawsuit about it. I believe they settled out of court. So we I don't know. I could I could probably use one of these computers in front of me to find it out. But yet this was kind of along those lines, I think.

00:24:51.28
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, yeah, exactly. So who does, is it technically using that person's Like, would the estate of Jimi Hendrix be able to claim, well, you used, if they say they released the song and put it out on radio and they said, this is a Jimi Hendrix tribute from AI Robot 6.239-4, and it's called this, would they have any leg to stand on to say, well, you you stole from Jimi Hendrix?

00:25:21.63
Matty Boombalatty
Eh, I mean, we are... we We appreciate his music, we respect it, and we modeled our style after him almost to a ridiculous degree. But are they really stealing?

00:25:34.43
Matty Boombalatty
It's a tough one. They're definitely sound-alikes. But, like, 7 Mary 3 didn't have to pay Pearl Jam anything.

00:25:44.84
Matty Boombalatty
They just put out music. They sounded very similar, but they didn't have to...

00:25:51.01
jmfmedia
I think you're given, I think you're given seven, Mary three, a lot of credit in their abilities.

00:25:50.94
Matty Boombalatty
They were writing their own songs.

00:25:57.01
jmfmedia
Don't get me wrong. I liked their stuff, but to say that they were the same level as per Pearl jam.

00:26:02.29
Matty Boombalatty
But when they came out, all right, listen, so I will say that the lost tapes of the 27 club are the seven Mary three of dead people releasing new music.

00:26:14.94
jmfmedia
Poor seven, Mary three.

00:26:14.92
Matty Boombalatty
It's close enough.

00:26:16.06
jmfmedia
They didn't do anything. And now here we are dragging them in an AI debate.

00:26:22.06
Matty Boombalatty
They're, they're listeners. They'll appreciate it. So, but that's a really good point. So it's, it's often enough that it's not. a cover and it's not sampling, it's just mimicking.

00:26:35.40
jmfmedia
Well, this that what I said was a perfect example because I went out and actually used AI to get an overview of what it was because what you're talking about is almost is pretty damn close to what happened in that song that Young Gravy did.

00:26:40.72
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:26:50.05
jmfmedia
So here's the here's the overview. Young Gravy's song, Betty, Get Money, samples and interpolates the 1987 song Never Gonna Give You Up by Rick Astley.

00:26:51.95
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:26:59.43
Matty Boombalatty
yeah

00:27:00.03
jmfmedia
The song sample is not actually the original recording, but a recreation made from scratch to sound identical.

00:27:07.00
Matty Boombalatty
Really, even the music was interesting.

00:27:07.43
jmfmedia
the yeah The songs writers Mike Stock, Matthew Aiken and Pete Waterman are credited as songwriters. Young Gravy and his team cleared the use of the underlying composition of the song but did not use any of Astley's original recording. Because of this, it is not considered a sample and neither Astley nor his label were involved in any deals.

00:27:32.40
jmfmedia
Astley sued Young Gravy for violating his right of publicity, claiming that the song closely mimicked his voice.

00:27:34.38
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:27:40.03
jmfmedia
However, the lawsuit was settled. So I don't really know what the actual outcome was, but that's pretty much what you're talking about.

00:27:49.10
Matty Boombalatty
Which means if you hear that song, you are not technically being rick rolled, even though it feels like it.

00:27:54.78
jmfmedia
No, but yeah, and you know, I wonder for somebody like young gravy who's not really writing radio hits, ah that was his probably biggest radio hit is I wonder if the money him and his crew made was equal to or more than the lawyers they had to pay to fight Rick Astley and his group over the definition of what that sample is, even though it's not really him, but it is him kind of, but it's not.

00:28:13.01
Matty Boombalatty
Oh.

00:28:23.42
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, right. Well, okay. So, so the money aspect is a whole big can of worms. But if we take the money out of it, have you ever watched those videos they're on? I think they're actually also on TikTok, but ah they're on the internet by um an um artist called or a a tag hashtag or whatever called there. I ruined it.

00:28:41.15
jmfmedia
No.

00:28:42.03
Matty Boombalatty
so there i ruined it makes these songs and they play like there's a video there's usually a video and it shows the different um wave files of him mixing two songs together that don't make sense so like there's one that's a christmas version of uh get low and it's get low but to the tune of um like let it snow or something like that and it's so hilarious and it sounds

00:29:10.17
jmfmedia
I do love the idea of Get Low as a Christmas song.

00:29:13.08
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, it's great. And then there's like Simon and Garfunkel doing my humps.

00:29:18.54
jmfmedia
I do know this.

00:29:18.94
Matty Boombalatty
And then, yeah, so then at the end, there's a little thing that says there, I ruined it.

00:29:19.82
jmfmedia
I looked it up. I know exactly what it is now. Yeah.

00:29:24.31
Matty Boombalatty
Well, anyway, this guy, is he's a guy named Dustin Ballard and he makes them. Um, and he started during the, during COVID-19, but he basically, someone interviewed him recently and he said, I just use AI now because I used to do my own voices and try to disguise myself as these artists, but AI makes it so much easier. I can sing something and then put it into the AI and say, make me sound like Simon and Garfunkel. And boom, he sounds just like Simon and Garfunkel. It's creepy.

00:29:53.80
jmfmedia
Hmm.

00:29:54.54
Matty Boombalatty
So, but, that but I don't, I mean, he makes money off of hits, but he doesn't sell those. Like those aren't, it's not a matter of I'm going to sue you because you make money off of my voice because he doesn't, I don't think, I would argue he doesn't make money, but, um, Oh, I'm sure, but it's not as a direct, like he doesn't sell those songs.

00:30:09.69
jmfmedia
yeah I don't know he has 2.2 million followers on Instagram. He probably makes a little bit.

00:30:22.74
jmfmedia
No.

00:30:22.78
Matty Boombalatty
He sells, he sells a joke and they include those songs, if that makes any sense.

00:30:27.89
jmfmedia
Yeah, he probably sells merch. I'm trying to find out, but, uh, yeah, he has a 2.2 million followers on Instagram there. I ruined it. Also followed by a couple of our peer podcasts, my weekly mix tape.

00:30:40.31
jmfmedia
They say that right.

00:30:40.39
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:30:40.83
jmfmedia
My weekly mix tape. That all came out as a weird word and the the story song podcast.

00:30:43.59
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, cool.

00:30:45.79
jmfmedia
And then the nostalgia test, all of them follow it too.

00:30:48.89
Matty Boombalatty
All right. So listen, I thought we would do something fun using AI. because I've become a little addicted to chatty, to chat GPT. I a lot of fun just giving it ridiculous things to do and seeing how it never said, oh, can't do that.

00:30:58.68
jmfmedia
Shocking.

00:31:07.08
Matty Boombalatty
It never said, andt I need a little more information. It was always like, yup, here you go. it's And it's perfect. And so what I did was I gave chatty several pop songs and said,

00:31:19.24
jmfmedia
kind

00:31:20.46
Matty Boombalatty
please describe these pop songs without using the title of the song or the artist as if I were to guess what the song is, being as specific as possible without using the title.

00:31:31.61
jmfmedia
Oh, Lord. Is that what I have to do?

00:31:35.44
Matty Boombalatty
Yes.

00:31:36.24
jmfmedia
and Oh, good. Because.

00:31:38.09
Matty Boombalatty
So I'm going to read you some of these songs and I want you to try to guess based on, and again, I did not give

00:31:39.99
jmfmedia
All right.

00:31:46.39
Matty Boombalatty
chatty, any other information other than title artist. So I didn't say talk about when it came out, talk about, I didn't give it any other information. So all of this stuff that you are going to hear this AI gathered on its own.

00:32:02.58
jmfmedia
Okay.

00:32:03.55
Matty Boombalatty
All right, so let's start with the first one. This is a song that Chatty is going to describe as, this energetic track begins with a powerful, iconic spoken introduction that encourages listeners to embrace a sense of liberation and abandon. The song's driving beat and infectious rhythm create an exhilarating atmosphere, inviting everyone to let loose and enjoy life's wild moments.

00:32:28.09
Matty Boombalatty
The lyrics speak to overcoming life's challenges and not letting difficulties hold you back. The music blends elements of funk, rock, and pop, featuring a memorable guitar riff and a pulsating rhythm that get everyone moving. As the song progresses, it builds to a euphoric climax with a call to celebrate and dance, emphasizing themes of joy and unity. The track is celebrated for its dynamic and vibrant performance, making it a quintessential anthem for letting go and enjoying the present. Do you have any guesses yet?

00:32:54.74
jmfmedia
Um, initially I had a song come to mind, but I'm sure it's not that one. So I'm going to go with, is it celebrate?

00:33:03.01
Matty Boombalatty
No, but you're on the right track. Uh, the song was released in this, again, this is all stuff from chatty. I didn't give them any of that information. The song was released in 1984 as part of an album that was both critically acclaimed and commercially successful.

00:33:16.05
Matty Boombalatty
It reached number one on the billboard hot 100 chart in the United States.

00:33:19.82
jmfmedia
Is it jump by Van Halen?

00:33:21.59
Matty Boombalatty
No, the opening monologue, the track begins with a memorable spoken word intro that encourages listeners to embrace life's challenges and live with enthusiasm.

00:33:35.28
Matty Boombalatty
The album, it was released as part of an album that served as the soundtrack to a highly successful film, which also featured the performer in a prominent role.

00:33:44.69
jmfmedia
It's um The singer was in this movie.

00:33:46.87
Matty Boombalatty
So the singer had a role in this movie.

00:33:50.94
jmfmedia
It was from 1984 It

00:33:55.78
Matty Boombalatty
The song blends elements of rock, funk, and pop showcasing the performer's signature guitar work and vibrant rhythm.

00:34:04.77
jmfmedia
So this, uh, this singer is, it's a 1984, the singer.

00:34:05.06
Matty Boombalatty
you have any guesses.

00:34:11.84
jmfmedia
I'm so I'm all twisted on this one. I don't know. I have no idea.

00:34:17.45
Matty Boombalatty
The song is Let's Go Crazy by Prince.

00:34:21.67
jmfmedia
Oh, dearly beloved.

00:34:24.01
Matty Boombalatty
And now that you hear that, you're like, wow, that is a really good description.

00:34:24.19
jmfmedia
We are gathered here to today to witness this thing called life.

00:34:28.57
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:34:31.28
Matty Boombalatty
All right. That was, we're, we're, we're shaking off the rust. This is a good start. We'll go from here.

00:34:35.39
jmfmedia
I was trying to think of some of the, so you the first song that came to mind, I don't know why was Vogue by Madonna.

00:34:39.22
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:34:41.99
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, um,

00:34:43.56
jmfmedia
Cause it, but it doesn't really have a mono monolo ah monologue, a monologue at the beginning, but it it is done in a very.

00:34:49.57
Matty Boombalatty
no, it says, yeah.

00:34:52.93
jmfmedia
Deadpan monotone for a while.

00:34:53.64
Matty Boombalatty
Mm-hmm.

00:34:55.57
jmfmedia
And then it gets into, you know, she actually sings a little bit. I don't know why that's the song it made me think of, but that was the first song that came to mind.

00:35:02.49
Matty Boombalatty
And you know, sometimes when you have a song stuck in your head, it's hard to change your brain into thinking something else. Cause now you're probably the whole time thinking, will this work with...

00:35:10.27
jmfmedia
My brain is like, what are other songs that are like Vogue? And it's like, stop it brain.

00:35:12.47
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:35:13.67
jmfmedia
That's not the song.

00:35:13.76
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. All right. Here's song number two. You ready?

00:35:16.54
jmfmedia
Song number two.

00:35:17.97
Matty Boombalatty
This track is a prominent example of late 1980s hip hop characterized by its funky beats and playful lyrics. The song features a prominent groovy baseline that sets the tone for its infectious rhythm.

00:35:30.59
Matty Boombalatty
The music is driven by a catchy, upbeat melody with a blend of synthesized sounds and brass elements. The rhythm section is prominent with a steady drum beat that adds to the song's danceable quality. The lead vocals are delivered with a charismatic and humorous style. The rapper's delivery is smooth and rhythmic, often incorporating a playful tone that enhances the song's comedic elements.

00:35:53.88
Matty Boombalatty
The lyrics tell a humorous and somewhat outrageous story about a fictional beverage with magical properties that affect.

00:36:01.82
jmfmedia
Funky Cole Medina, Tone Loke.

00:36:02.74
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. Yes, you got it.

00:36:05.55
jmfmedia
At first I was like wild thing by Tone Loke. I'm like, he's explaining wild thing.

00:36:10.41
Matty Boombalatty
Nice job, buddy.

00:36:10.79
jmfmedia
And then when you're like fictional, time I was like, is this DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince parents just don't understand when he said a fictional trick. I was like, Funky Cole Medina. That's it. Got it.

00:36:19.09
Matty Boombalatty
You did. Yeah. So the song uses a comedic approach to discuss themes of attraction and social interaction. It plays with the idea of a magic drink that can alter people's behavior and romantic prospects, providing a satirical take on romantic pursuits. The fact that it can tell you that is a little scary.

00:36:35.72
jmfmedia
So my question is, is thinking back to the song Funky Cold Medina, because that would have been what?

00:36:40.11
Matty Boombalatty
Uh, yes.

00:36:40.71
jmfmedia
Eighty nine. I'd have been. I'd have been eighth grade on the borderline of going into high school. And so Funky Cold Medina, that was played at like everything.

00:36:54.78
Matty Boombalatty
Yep.

00:36:56.86
jmfmedia
Is he basing that on Spanish fly?

00:37:00.22
Matty Boombalatty
Probably. Yeah, I think so.

00:37:02.28
jmfmedia
The legendary Spanish fly, which I don't think I've ever seen. Is it? I mean, I'm going to ask something dumb here of the Internet. I could look it up, but is Spanish fly a real thing? Like, can you buy it? Is it out there? Is it just this mythical thing that you can only get in like Tijuana or something?

00:37:18.80
Matty Boombalatty
I think it's out there, but I don't think it's commercially available.

00:37:22.39
jmfmedia
Well, here, while you're going to the next thing, let me look this up at my tiny computer.

00:37:22.61
Matty Boombalatty
I don't think. Yeah. And I know the song, it didn't mention things. One thing i was when I was scrolling through, it doesn't mention the sampling of, what is it?

00:37:37.86
Matty Boombalatty
Honky Tonk Woman? I think. It didn't mention that.

00:37:41.79
jmfmedia
Is it?

00:37:42.47
Matty Boombalatty
So it's not, it could have done that to give you a clue. um

00:37:48.70
jmfmedia
Holy cow!

00:37:49.88
Matty Boombalatty
What?

00:37:50.60
jmfmedia
Spanish Fly has an official store!

00:37:52.61
Matty Boombalatty
Oh boy, oh boy.

00:37:54.22
jmfmedia
Seriously, it's SpanishFly.com! It's available in both extra strong and tasteless versions, which if you have to tell me that, that means you should not own this if you're buying it for what I think you're buying it for, because you're probably going to be using it in not a, not a, you know, up and up way.

00:38:13.91
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, I feel like they're both tasteless versions.

00:38:17.10
jmfmedia
Experience a whole new sensation with the ones you love.

00:38:17.11
Matty Boombalatty
ah

00:38:20.07
Matty Boombalatty
So the lead vocals are delivered with a distinctive gravelly voice, which is a hallmark of the artist known for this track. Now it must steal from articles written about the song, right?

00:38:30.26
Matty Boombalatty
Like it has to

00:38:30.53
jmfmedia
It's got to, it's this type of AI, this generative AI is, if this is not combing sound samples per se, at least I don't think so. It's combing the internet for every written article mentioned, anything like that, you know, and then it is compiling it and then it knows

00:38:44.86
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. Right.

00:38:51.00
jmfmedia
with all of the other things that have been compiled. Because these generative AIs are are large language learning models, LLMs. And so whatever you train it by, i.e.

00:39:02.29
jmfmedia
feed it, that's what it learns from and builds from. And I believe like chat GBT, three or four, whatever on, it has been fed things in the lab that it was you know designed and built in, but it also combs the internet, I believe.

00:39:16.63
Matty Boombalatty
That's scary.

00:39:17.68
jmfmedia
I'm not, I'm not super up on all of these AI models. I should be considering the career I'm in, but I really don't want them to work because it's, it's over time going to take away a bunch of the creative, the baseline creative work that people do.

00:39:26.09
Matty Boombalatty
No.

00:39:36.49
Matty Boombalatty
Exactly. And that's the part that I'm scared about too, is that like, yeah.

00:39:39.11
jmfmedia
Like the part that you do to learn how to do all of these other things, it's going to do that. So we don't need somebody to do that for us. But what it could create is people who become, for lack of a better term, artists with this stuff. So they know how to like, because chat GPT isn't the only one Microsoft has their own is called co-pilot. Uh, Google has one Amazon, I'm sure is building when they might be part of the chat GPT group.

00:40:04.00
jmfmedia
So they're all building these large language model databases.

00:40:06.47
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:40:07.61
jmfmedia
Private companies are building their own right now because they don't want to accidentally get sued by accidentally using somebody else's information and plagiarizing inadvertently and all that.

00:40:14.32
Matty Boombalatty
Right.

00:40:19.60
jmfmedia
There's a lot of legal issues that are going to pop up because of this. So maybe you should be ah become a chat GPT lawyer.

00:40:25.20
Matty Boombalatty
I should. Maybe it's not too late.

00:40:27.34
jmfmedia
Not you. We're too late in life. We're done for, but like our kids should do this.

00:40:29.93
Matty Boombalatty
Damn it. Yeah.

00:40:33.55
jmfmedia
So yeah, I am.

00:40:34.13
Matty Boombalatty
All right. You ready for number three? Okay. This track is a classic example of a power ballad from the late 1980s, blending rock elements with a softer, more emotional delivery.

00:40:46.55
Matty Boombalatty
It features a slow tempo and a prominent acoustic guitar arrangement.

00:40:49.76
jmfmedia
Every Rose has its thorn poison.

00:40:51.26
Matty Boombalatty
How the hell did you know that?

00:40:55.49
jmfmedia
How do you know I'm not chat GPT?

00:40:59.59
Matty Boombalatty
Damn it. You're right. Absolutely.

00:41:02.67
jmfmedia
Really?

00:41:03.01
Matty Boombalatty
done Yeah, that was it. You got it.

00:41:05.62
jmfmedia
It's the NASCAR hat, brah.

00:41:09.86
Matty Boombalatty
ah now See, now this one, content and message lyrics explore themes of love, heartache, and personal growth. The song reflects on a past romantic relationship and the pain of parting ways.

00:41:20.22
jmfmedia
Yeah, because he could have saved a love that night if he'd just known what to say.

00:41:20.34
Matty Boombalatty
it use It uses the metaphor of a rose to illustrate the idea that beauty and love can come with their own set of challenges and sorrows.

00:41:33.13
Matty Boombalatty
the song.

00:41:33.36
jmfmedia
Instead of making up, they just made their separate ways, Matt.

00:41:33.66
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, this actually this one actually pulls some lyrics.

00:41:36.40
jmfmedia
It's so sad.

00:41:38.68
Matty Boombalatty
It says the song features poignant lines, such as we both lie silently still in the dead of the night. And just like every rose has its thorn, these lines reflect the songs focus on the bittersweet nature of love and the inevitable pain that can accompany in it as if chatty, you know what any of that means you heartless bastard.

00:41:54.69
jmfmedia
And it's funny because you asked a chatty to not use lyrics from the song, I believe, or not use the title.

00:42:01.57
Matty Boombalatty
No, I said no title, no artists. I didn't say don't use lyrics, but I didn't say to use lyrics either.

00:42:03.58
jmfmedia
No title, no artist. But the title is the lyrics and the lyrics are in the title.

00:42:09.70
Matty Boombalatty
That's true.

00:42:12.24
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. Yeah.

00:42:13.74
jmfmedia
But I guessed it.

00:42:14.01
Matty Boombalatty
Interesting.

00:42:14.62
jmfmedia
It's just so everyone knows I guessed it before he got to any of that part.

00:42:16.09
Matty Boombalatty
You guessed it. You did. You got, you got it in the first sentence. That's impressive. There's so much more, but I'm not going to read all of it because you got it. You nailed it.

00:42:25.25
jmfmedia
I'm just, it is, it is interesting. Like. Because when you told me this is what we were going to do, I started I did not do go to like any of these LMS or, you know, any of the chatties and ask it the way you did.

00:42:30.74
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:42:39.08
jmfmedia
I just said, describe X song. And it it literally kicked out any review you've ever read in Rolling Stone, AP, any of the pitchfork, any of those.

00:42:49.97
jmfmedia
It just kicked out a review. this I'm like, If you printed this, if you didn't know anything about the 80s or early 90s when we are formative years, some would say um you would just think it was the review that somebody wrote.

00:42:58.80
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:43:03.02
jmfmedia
You would be none the wiser.

00:43:04.59
Matty Boombalatty
Right. Yeah. It's very convincing. Um, all right. You ready for the next one?

00:43:10.31
jmfmedia
I am.

00:43:11.95
Matty Boombalatty
This track is a prominent example of early 1990s pop music, incorporating elements of rock, pop, and dance. It features an upbeat infectious rhythm. They use infectious rhythm a lot, Chaddy.

00:43:23.24
Matty Boombalatty
You're a little redundant. That's your crutch. That's Chaddy's crutch with a fusion of diverse musical influences.

00:43:26.05
jmfmedia
That's chatty scratch.

00:43:29.97
Matty Boombalatty
The song begins with a powerful rhythmic guitar riff that sets a dynamic tone. It also includes a blend of drum beats, bass lines, and synthesized sounds contributing to a vibrant and energetic sound. The use of a distinctive syncopated beat drives the song's rhythm and adds to its danceability quality. The lead vocals are delivered with a commanding and spirited style featuring both smooth and powerful sections. The chorus is particularly memorable with a catchy melody and a message of unity and equality. The lyrics folks focus on themes of racial harmony and equality. The song's narrative emphasized the idea that skin color should not matter and promotes a message of inclusiveness and togetherness.

00:44:07.09
Matty Boombalatty
It addresses issues of prejudice and advocates for unity across different racial and cultural backgrounds. The tone of the.

00:44:14.19
jmfmedia
Is it black or white by Michael Jackson?

00:44:16.07
Matty Boombalatty
Yes.

00:44:18.78
Matty Boombalatty
Yes, you got it.

00:44:22.28
jmfmedia
I didn't, I was, I was like, I'm going through my head. I'm like, what are early nineties songs that would have done. And I was like, isn't there like a CNC music factory song that might've fit this?

00:44:31.03
Matty Boombalatty
Oh.

00:44:32.30
jmfmedia
And then I'm like, well, is there, if some reason rhythm of the night popped into my head, I'm like, no, that's not it.

00:44:36.36
Matty Boombalatty
oh

00:44:37.73
jmfmedia
And then when he said, I forget what the, what the, what the, what the trigger was. And I was like, Oh, black or white by Michael Jackson.

00:44:44.70
Matty Boombalatty
You got it. All right. I don't know if you winning is good for you or good for chatty.

00:44:50.09
jmfmedia
I think chatty needs to step up its game if I'm winning. I mean, I am a a borderline expert at a lot of this stuff.

00:44:56.68
Matty Boombalatty
That's true.

00:44:56.91
jmfmedia
I i wrote that in my own bio.

00:45:00.76
Matty Boombalatty
All right. Song number five.

00:45:04.00
jmfmedia
Hey, oh so so before we get song number five, you asked earlier what songs were sampled in Funky Cold Medina.

00:45:06.61
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:45:13.49
Matty Boombalatty
Right.

00:45:14.43
jmfmedia
And according to this internet site, uh, the site is genius dot.com. So why wouldn't it be right? And it's right in the title, funky cold Medina samples, get off your ass and jam by Funkadelic hot blooded by foreigner, which is an awesome song by itself.

00:45:21.45
Matty Boombalatty
Of course, yeah. Oh, I like that song.

00:45:33.48
jmfmedia
And, uh, my personal favorite in this whole thing, cause, um, it's about somebody who should probably go to jail. But it's called Christine 16 by kiss.

00:45:42.47
Matty Boombalatty
Okay.

00:45:45.01
Matty Boombalatty
Really?

00:45:45.86
jmfmedia
Yeah. I don't know where that's at in the song, but it does say it sampled it, but it says, and it says view all.

00:45:46.49
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, wow. I don't need there. So.

00:45:51.83
jmfmedia
So it's telling me there's more. No, that's it. Oh, and no, Lottie Dottie by Dougie fresh and the get fresh crew.

00:46:01.22
Matty Boombalatty
You know what I like about get off your ass and jam?

00:46:05.11
jmfmedia
What's that?

00:46:06.01
Matty Boombalatty
The chorus, or I guess you could really call it the chant is shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam.

00:46:12.26
jmfmedia
oh I forgot I was as soon as he said that I was like, oh, yeah, that's that song You know what you want to know I didn't even know that song um Existed until I've got who did I see in concert and they were cheap Oh it was if I remember correctly it was warrant on their dog eat dog tour and

00:46:20.34
Matty Boombalatty
Wow.

00:46:34.22
Matty Boombalatty
Really?

00:46:34.98
jmfmedia
When they came through and played Wendler Arena, like one of their interludes between their song, Janie Lane was just yelling shit. God damn, get off your ass and jam.

00:46:41.86
Matty Boombalatty
Nice.

00:46:43.15
jmfmedia
And of course the they started playing around it and every person in the crowd started chanting. And I was like 17. I was just like, yeah, shit.

00:46:50.32
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, it's the best moment ever.

00:46:52.73
jmfmedia
God damn, get off your head. And I had no idea what it was all about till later on in life.

00:46:58.26
Matty Boombalatty
All right, song number five.

00:47:00.13
jmfmedia
Song number five.

00:47:01.41
Matty Boombalatty
This track is an example of ska punk blending elements of ska music with punk rock influences.

00:47:05.54
jmfmedia
Okay, that helps.

00:47:10.03
Matty Boombalatty
It features an energetic and upbeat rhythm with a mix of brass and guitar driven sounds. The song prominently features a lively brass section, including trumpets and trombones, which provides a characteristic ska sound.

00:47:22.16
Matty Boombalatty
The rhythm section is driven by a fast paced drum beat and a punchy bass line. Electric guitars add to the song's dynamic quality with a mix of ska rhythms and punk rock intensity. The lead vocals are delivered with a distinctive playful style, often characterized by a humorous and somewhat exaggerated tone. The vocal performances match the energetic and upbeat nature of the music.

00:47:46.41
Matty Boombalatty
Here's our end content and message. The lyrics are centered around a whimsical and humorous narrative involving a fictional or exaggerated character related to the theme of tuna. The lyrics are playful and comedic, often incorporating puns and wordplay related to the subject.

00:48:01.53
jmfmedia
I know this one.

00:48:03.32
Matty Boombalatty
You do?

00:48:03.59
jmfmedia
They actually played in Saginaw this summer. I didn't get to go because I was out of town. It's Bubbleby Tuna by Mephistopheles.

00:48:10.09
Matty Boombalatty
Yes, it is.

00:48:11.23
jmfmedia
They played. They played at White's Bar. here in Saginaw, Michigan. I just outed where I'm at, but anyways, they played here and you can beat that if you want, but they played here and and I missed it.

00:48:17.18
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:48:24.11
Matty Boombalatty
ah That's a bummer. I play that all the time in my office to make everybody mad.

00:48:25.85
jmfmedia
I know.

00:48:29.39
jmfmedia
Oh, when i've I've played it at work and people like it.

00:48:32.68
Matty Boombalatty
um I think it's maybe the amount of times I play it.

00:48:38.05
jmfmedia
Yeah, I've known you for a while. That that that checks out.

00:48:40.38
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. All right. Well, you got that one. That was good. I mean, arguably the, the tuna gave it away, but I would, I would also argue that most people would say there's no way there's a song that's written about tuna unless you worked at Radio X.

00:48:53.17
jmfmedia
Now now my my guesses for that song before you got to the content part of it was ah my first thought was Here in Your Bedroom by goldfate god Goldfinger.

00:49:03.57
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, good. Like that.

00:49:05.19
jmfmedia
My second one was I was going through my head. I'm like, what song by Real Big Fish is this?

00:49:10.84
Matty Boombalatty
It could be any of them.

00:49:12.41
jmfmedia
It could be any of that, but I was like, uh, it could be the song beer. I mean, it was upbeat, but it was not technically an upbeat song. Uh, it could have been, uh, everyone else is an asshole.

00:49:24.38
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, yeah.

00:49:25.52
jmfmedia
It could have been, uh, I don't know.

00:49:25.51
Matty Boombalatty
ye Yep.

00:49:27.67
jmfmedia
It could have been a lot of songs, but those are my first two guesses was either the gold finger or a real big fish considering the time period. I think you were going for, and I was, and I was kind of right with Memphis, uh, Mephistopheles being it.

00:49:37.59
Matty Boombalatty
Yep.

00:49:38.22
jmfmedia
They all kind of hit in the same period.

00:49:40.41
Matty Boombalatty
Right in that window, you're exactly right. All right, so I have i one more song. One more.

00:49:45.97
jmfmedia
All right, one more song.

00:49:47.41
Matty Boombalatty
You are doing well. I think you've got every single one right.

00:49:50.23
jmfmedia
I know I didn't get the first one.

00:49:50.36
Matty Boombalatty
Oh no, the first one.

00:49:51.55
jmfmedia
I didn't get the first one.

00:49:51.61
Matty Boombalatty
Missed the first one, but you're you're still gonna win. So, song number six. This track is a classic example of early 1990s hip hop and rap, characterized by its upbeat tempo and distinctive bass line.

00:50:05.11
Matty Boombalatty
It features a prominent funky rhythm with elements of dance and rap music. The song is driven by a memorable baseline that is both deep and rhythmic. It includes a mix of hip hop beats and samples with a prominent use of horns and other synthesized sounds that contribute to its energetic and catchy feel.

00:50:20.86
Matty Boombalatty
The lead vocals are delivered with a charismatic and humorous style, incorporating a mix of rap verses and a catchy, memorable chorus. The rapper's delivery is confident and playful, reflecting the song's lighthearted and entertaining nature.

00:50:33.59
Matty Boombalatty
Now we're getting to lyrical themes. This is when you'll probably get it.

00:50:35.34
jmfmedia
Hold on, is it grove Grooves in the Heart by?

00:50:37.97
Matty Boombalatty
No, but I love that song.

00:50:38.55
jmfmedia
No, okay.

00:50:40.64
Matty Boombalatty
Uh, the lyrics focus on themes of physical attraction and body positivity with a specific emphasis on celebrating curvaceous body types.

00:50:49.25
jmfmedia
I got it. Baby Got Back by Sir Mix A Lot.

00:50:51.53
Matty Boombalatty
Yes.

00:50:54.41
Matty Boombalatty
You are a winner, sir. Well done.

00:50:58.68
jmfmedia
Man, i bought that I bought that cassette as soon as it came out. I loved that. I wore that cassette out.

00:51:03.84
Matty Boombalatty
Now see, I also had the cassette, but I had the cassette single with cake boy as the B side.

00:51:04.19
jmfmedia
Not just for that song, but...

00:51:08.88
jmfmedia
Cakeboy, I did not have the casino, as they called them.

00:51:12.03
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, I had the single. Uh, so, but don't you, and I don't, I don't know, but don't you think it's weird.

00:51:14.70
jmfmedia
I wonder what you would put in there if you did Square Dance Rap by that one. I wonder how it would explain the the lyrics and the delivery of that.

00:51:28.51
Matty Boombalatty
Like the one that I use is a free version. Like I didn't pay a bunch of money to register and make like, you know, like log into a thing. It's just the free chat GPT.

00:51:39.98
jmfmedia
Or chatty, as we like to say.

00:51:40.01
Matty Boombalatty
It has so, yeah, it's the free chatty. It has so much access to everything. It's really, it's a very robust search engine, I guess, to in a manner of speaking, to be able to get, like it includes the Billboard Hot 100 charts. It includes, you know, the memorable lyrics. It lists, this one lists some of the lyrics to Baby Got Back. And it's just, it really is thorough. You know what I mean?

00:52:09.09
jmfmedia
I would like to hear a computer a chat GPT generated voice ah just yell out. I like big butts and I cannot lie.

00:52:19.34
Matty Boombalatty
That would be cool.

00:52:20.78
jmfmedia
But but but like it was trying to be convincing, but it was very unconvincing.

00:52:26.05
Matty Boombalatty
So like it would say it very robotic or it would try not to be robotic, but it obviously still sounds robotic.

00:52:32.03
jmfmedia
Yeah, like it was trying to not be itself, but totally sounded like a robot doing it.

00:52:37.99
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, like C3PO.

00:52:40.14
jmfmedia
Yeah, or, uh, yeah, yeah. Not R2-D2, because it would just be beeps and boops.

00:52:44.99
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, that would be and hard to understand.

00:52:48.43
jmfmedia
Oh, man.

00:52:48.32
Matty Boombalatty
All right, well, those are all the songs I had. I feel like this is telling us that, A, robots are going to soon take over because they can describe songs just as well or maybe better than we could. And it was under certain parameters. Like if a human were to describe a song, they would really, I know this sounds dumb to say, but they would really humanize it.

00:53:12.32
Matty Boombalatty
This is for a robot to be able to

00:53:14.44
jmfmedia
I think personalized might be the word you're looking for.

00:53:16.57
Matty Boombalatty
Well, yeah, therere they would make it, they would say stuff like, oh, you know, it has like, you know how it talks about blah, blah, blah, blah. Like it would, it would cut to the chase as far as like the the key elements.

00:53:26.23
jmfmedia
There would be weird emphasis is on it because it would be an emphasis that was. Important to that person who is talking about it.

00:53:34.05
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, exactly. So a Robot has to describe the whole song and be thorough from start to finish. Tone, tempo, instrumentation, lyrical content. We would say, you know that song about butts?

00:53:45.18
Matty Boombalatty
And then you'd be like, oh yeah, that's it.

00:53:46.81
jmfmedia
Or, or like if the people who work either for, or with you, if I said, Hey, describe bumblebee tuna by Mephistopheles, they're going to be like, Oh, you mean that annoying ass song that our boss plays all the time, but he thinks it's cool.

00:54:00.97
jmfmedia
It's like a ska song. And they talk about tuna. Like that's the explanation you would get out of somebody like that.

00:54:06.53
Matty Boombalatty
Exactly.

00:54:07.14
jmfmedia
It wouldn't, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be what you get from, you know, a robot.

00:54:11.07
Matty Boombalatty
That would, if that would creep me out, if I had Chatty describe that song and it said, you know, that song that you play a lot in your office, I would, I would throw my computer away.

00:54:23.16
Matty Boombalatty
I'd be so scared.

00:54:23.34
jmfmedia
Yeah, you'd go home. You'd be like, dear, all of the computers are gone. We are now, we've become, we're now Amish.

00:54:26.30
Matty Boombalatty
Nope.

00:54:29.24
Matty Boombalatty
We're moving to the woods.

00:54:29.46
jmfmedia
Get the kids straw hats. We're moving to the woods. I'm building a barn. We're all done. All done. yeah Next time you get to have fun, boys. Rum Springer. That's it. well We're all done.

00:54:38.78
Matty Boombalatty
Bury all the tiny robots in the ground.

00:54:40.58
jmfmedia
Yeah. Yeah. I just use muskets now and I hatch it to provide the food.

00:54:49.36
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, man.

00:54:50.22
jmfmedia
It's scary, it's scary enough that when you're using your you know your phone, which is, we call it a phone, but it's not a phone. no Rarely do people use it as a phone unless you're calling me about information for a PA system, then then it's a phone.

00:54:59.57
Matty Boombalatty
Right.

00:55:03.43
Matty Boombalatty
Which worked great, by the way. Thank you.

00:55:05.36
jmfmedia
And I was completely shocked. I didn't even answer the phone. Hey, Matt, what's up? I was like, the hell are you calling me for?

00:55:13.72
Matty Boombalatty
You're using this as a phone.

00:55:15.16
jmfmedia
You're using this as a phone? And he's like, yeah, hello.

00:55:22.97
Matty Boombalatty
Does this part still work? I was just checking.

00:55:24.20
jmfmedia
I haven't used it in so long.

00:55:29.07
Matty Boombalatty
I know that was pretty cool.

00:55:29.62
jmfmedia
But yeah, I'm glad the PA system worked for you. I'm glad it all worked out.

00:55:31.72
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:55:32.90
jmfmedia
But so to bring this full circle to the question you asked at the beginning about essentially AI and radio,

00:55:37.24
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. Mhmm.

00:55:42.45
jmfmedia
And if you're just going to run your local station or your national station as a jukebox and try to compete with things like, I don't know, people's iPhones or Android phones and their playlists on their phones or their Spotify account or their title account or their Amazon music account or their Apple music account.

00:56:00.41
jmfmedia
I have a hard time believing that radio as we know it today will last a whole hell of a lot longer if that's your competition because you are never going to beat my playlist because I know exactly what I want to listen to.

00:56:13.41
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:56:14.21
jmfmedia
I mean, the algorithm will tell me things like on Spotify, it'll feed me stuff that is similar to what I'm listening to. And a lot of times I'm, I like it.

00:56:24.55
jmfmedia
So I continue to go on. I'll give you an example of that. Um, there's a group, uh, I went and saw, um, a concert not too long ago. Uh, we saw the struts and a group opening for them was called Barnes Courtney.

00:56:38.20
jmfmedia
Barnes Courtney is fantastic.

00:56:39.63
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

00:56:39.92
jmfmedia
Total rock and roll band, but their bass player, his name is Jermaine. Like Jackson, but he's not germane Jackson and um God, I hope I got his name right.

00:56:46.53
Matty Boombalatty
Got it.

00:56:49.02
jmfmedia
Otherwise you just have to axe this whole part um But he has a side.

00:56:51.16
Matty Boombalatty
Okay.

00:56:52.53
jmfmedia
He has his own project called the south

00:56:55.32
Matty Boombalatty
Okay.

00:56:56.14
jmfmedia
And ah Mark from songs that don't suck podcast is the one who kind of, whether he realized it or not, he keyed me onto this and I was checking it out and I was listening to his album. It was good.

00:57:07.15
jmfmedia
But once it got to the end of his album, it kept playing songs that were similar to the album.

00:57:07.63
Matty Boombalatty
Mm hmm.

00:57:12.01
jmfmedia
I didn't realize his album had ended. It was playing songs so similar. I was just like, wow, this is a really long album.

00:57:16.97
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, yeah.

00:57:19.87
jmfmedia
And it was so good. It just played more music that sounded like the album.

00:57:24.13
Matty Boombalatty
And you liked all the- all the-

00:57:25.30
jmfmedia
And I liked all of it, which is awesome and scary all at the same time.

00:57:26.80
Matty Boombalatty
wow

00:57:30.83
jmfmedia
But where I was completely going with this, my adult ADD kicked in and I went completely sideways on this is if you're running a radio station, this is my opinion, but I'm probably right.

00:57:41.50
jmfmedia
And you're just trying to buy be a jukebox. you're not long for that. You're going to have to sell. You're going to have to do something to to generate revenue because nobody's going to listen to that in the long run, maybe in an office, maybe in a bar or something like that, how you're going to have to stay relevant as a radio station.

00:58:02.35
jmfmedia
and bring in new listeners is you're gonna have to let these younger folks, one, participate in it, one, and two, you're gonna have to let them create.

00:58:07.74
Matty Boombalatty
Mmhmm.

00:58:11.62
jmfmedia
These kids are, these folks who coming up are creators. Look at the internet, look at YouTube, look at Instagram, look at TikTok, look at all of that stuff, previously Vine, all of those things.

00:58:22.42
jmfmedia
These folks are creators. You have to take that energy and put it on your station.

00:58:27.82
Matty Boombalatty
yeah

00:58:28.00
jmfmedia
And that will keep you local, which is a big important part of ah radio. That's kind of, I mean, it's there to sell soap originally, if you know your history, but.

00:58:39.97
jmfmedia
It's also there to do local things. So you get your local content creators so and you let them have at it on your radio station. Now you got to put some guardrails up because you know you do have to follow FCC rules and those type of things. But if you want to be successful long-term on a local level, you have to have local people doing it. Why do you think local news and talk stations are outlasting? Now I have no data to back this up. This is just me listening to things.

00:59:09.00
jmfmedia
our local news and talk radio station has been a similar format and idea for years and they've topped everything because the one thing they have that a lot of the other stations don't have at least not all day They have local people in the studio doing things, giving information in a timely fashion, getting out there. I mean, they do have syndicated talk shows, but when those breaks hit, they're not just running local avails of commercials. They're breaking in with local news, local happenings, local stuff. And then they're reading, you know, that they're playing commercials and things like that.

00:59:48.33
jmfmedia
but they're actually doing it local. They're not just taking the complete and national feed and letting it run. They're actually programming the station.

00:59:53.47
Matty Boombalatty
Right. Yeah, I agree. So those robots that are listening now, you need to hire creatives. You can't just be doing it all yourself. You need at least one or two creative tools in your toolbox.

01:00:08.03
jmfmedia
You need to have sales and you need to have programming because you're going to need some organization. Creatives aren't usually the greatest at being organized and doing a whole business type.

01:00:17.78
Matty Boombalatty
That's true.

01:00:19.70
jmfmedia
Some are, some are very gifted, but you know you need the creatives to create the content and you need the sales folks to be able to monetize that content because you got to have money to keep the station on the air.

01:00:30.45
Matty Boombalatty
All right.

01:00:30.83
jmfmedia
They have to work together.

01:00:32.47
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

01:00:32.64
jmfmedia
And as you and I have seen, and I'm sure many other people is, who gets, you know, your morning team will get the big chunk because morning drive is still, even though things are kind of changing, morning drive is still, then especially on the FM side, the number one time of day that they're going to do things.

01:00:49.52
jmfmedia
And sales are the people that get it. So those are your two things that usually get the heavy emphasis. And then the rest of the days are like whatever sales can you got to have those creatives working with sales to do the rest of the time.

01:01:02.56
jmfmedia
That's my opinion for what it's worth.

01:01:05.26
Matty Boombalatty
I love it.

01:01:05.81
jmfmedia
I feel like I feel like that part on Family Guy, you don't know what grinds my gears.

01:01:05.86
Matty Boombalatty
All right. So I had, so, um, if you, I had one more thing that I had chat GPT do.

01:01:17.47
Matty Boombalatty
So when we say goodbye to chatty, um, I actually had chatty.

01:01:17.75
jmfmedia
OK.

01:01:23.70
Matty Boombalatty
write up a um goodbye for the for the podcast to say, you know, see you next time.

01:01:30.30
jmfmedia
Mm hmm.

01:01:31.11
Matty Boombalatty
Basically what I said is wrap up the podcast for us um in one paragraph using as many song lyrics as you could.

01:01:39.32
jmfmedia
Oh boy.

01:01:41.09
Matty Boombalatty
So are you ready for this?

01:01:42.85
jmfmedia
Hit me

01:01:43.95
Matty Boombalatty
As we reach the final curtain call, it's clear we're saying, I'm going to miss you when you're gone, echoing the bittersweet farewell of somebody that I used to know. It's been a long and winding road getting here, but just like don't stop believing, keep those dreams alive as we part ways. Though it's time to say goodbye, remember that every little thing she does is magic. And our time together has been nothing short of enchanting. Until next time, I will always love you and we'll catch you on the flip side as we ride off into the sunset of sweet child of mine. What the damn hell, crap.

01:02:20.61
jmfmedia
I'm not sure if we ended the podcast or if we just broke up. I'm really not sure what happened there.

01:02:27.43
Matty Boombalatty
Oh man. All right. Well, that's it for me.

01:02:31.84
jmfmedia
Now that's it for me.

01:02:35.34
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, let's, that's actually, and wait, start over, start over.

01:02:36.88
jmfmedia
Yeah, he's Matt, I'm Jace. This is...

01:02:40.66
Matty Boombalatty
I'm going to delete this. Do something more official. Cause I think we just kind of ran out of steam right off into the sunset of sweet child of mine.

01:02:45.98
jmfmedia
We were just dumbfounded by the... Uh, just the gravitas.

01:02:51.93
Matty Boombalatty
That doesn't even make sense. Stupid robot.

01:02:54.51
jmfmedia
I ride off into the sunset of sweet child of mine. I'm glad it didn't say on sweet child of mine.

01:03:01.07
Matty Boombalatty
Oh yeah.

01:03:01.35
jmfmedia
That would have been who. So I'm not even sure how to end after this.

01:03:02.68
Matty Boombalatty
Weird.

01:03:05.65
jmfmedia
I mean, we can go the official route of he's Matt. I'm Jayce. Thanks for listening to X radio X.

01:03:12.16
Matty Boombalatty
Uh, we have to do our, um, socials.

01:03:15.86
jmfmedia
Oh shit. Hold on. I mean, crap. Excuse me.

01:03:19.59
Matty Boombalatty
Damn hell crap.

01:03:20.61
jmfmedia
Damn hell crap. Um, I mean, you're not going to use this. So just while I look this up, but I had it right. A 30 second spot for us. And this is what it, and this is what it was.

01:03:30.18
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, nice.

01:03:32.89
jmfmedia
We start with upbeat, energetic music playing. Looking for the best mix of hits? It's all right here on X-Radio X. From classic bangers to the latest chart toppers, we've got your soundtrack covered 24-7. Download the X-Radio X app now and take the music with you wherever you go. Whether you're on the road at work or chilling at home, turn it up with X-Radio X, music your way.

01:04:02.53
Matty Boombalatty
Wow. And rip off the knob.

01:04:05.26
jmfmedia
Turn those dials to 11 and rip off the knob. Down at Thunder Valley, we'll have all the Titans of Crash, the Dukes of Dash.

01:04:10.80
Matty Boombalatty
Speaking of.

01:04:16.10
jmfmedia
It's $10 for a whole seat, but you'll only need the edge. Do, do, do, do, do, lasers. What was I looking up? I don't even know now.

01:04:27.49
Matty Boombalatty
ah Socials. um So.

01:04:29.05
jmfmedia
Our socials. So, oh, God.

01:04:34.03
Matty Boombalatty
You want to do it? You made it do it.

01:04:36.48
jmfmedia
I'm just going to find what ourselves. Okay. Our socials is a X radio X podcast at X radio X underscore podcast. That's on ah Instagram. And you can also catch us on threads at the exact same thing.

01:04:50.38
Matty Boombalatty
Also available on Twitter at X-ray to X one. We'd love to hear from you. If you enjoy what you listen to, please, uh, like subscribe, tell your friends, tell your family, tell your friends, family and your friends, family's friends.

01:05:04.03
Matty Boombalatty
and tell all the robots you know.

01:05:04.35
jmfmedia
And if you hate this, send it to your enemies.

01:05:07.49
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, tell all the robots you know, and that'll get word out.

01:05:08.41
jmfmedia
Can't hurt. Yeah.

01:05:14.46
jmfmedia
Still don't know how to end it, do we?

01:05:16.41
Matty Boombalatty
As always, I'm Matt.

01:05:18.34
jmfmedia
I'm Jace to X Radio X.

01:05:19.43
Matty Boombalatty
Thanks for listening. It's X Radio X.

01:05:25.68
Matty Boombalatty
wait Did we forget how to do this?

01:05:28.41
jmfmedia
i I don't know.

01:05:32.16
Matty Boombalatty
It worked.

01:05:32.98
jmfmedia
what What did you say?

01:05:33.11
Matty Boombalatty
We got there.

01:05:33.98
jmfmedia
What was your old tagline? Sometimes it is just your job to be a warning to others.

01:05:39.24
Matty Boombalatty
That's right.

01:05:42.55
jmfmedia
I don't know where that fits, but I feel like it does.

01:05:42.47
Matty Boombalatty
I thought that went well. It was it was probably exactly an hour.

01:05:47.19
jmfmedia
It was damn close. It was, it was, if it wasn't an hour, it was like 101, 102.

01:05:52.34
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, that was good. I thought that was fun. Did you think it was fun?

01:05:56.24
jmfmedia
I thought it was, I thought it was good too, because for all the stuff we talked about in the beginning, we brought it back in the end and kind of wrapped the initial question up and made our way out in the most club footed way, ham fisted way ever, but we still got out.

01:06:10.34
Matty Boombalatty
I'll, yeah, I'll snip around it a little. Um, cool.

01:06:15.23
jmfmedia
Make it definitely sound like AI did not edit this.

01:06:15.34
Matty Boombalatty
um

01:06:20.38
Matty Boombalatty
Um, we should try to get, and we should try to get, uh, one of our friends for an interview for the next one. Cause we stopped doing that for awhile and those were fun.

01:06:30.59
jmfmedia
We definitely should.

01:06:31.66
Matty Boombalatty
Like punk guy, or we could see if waltz available.

01:06:34.76
jmfmedia
Even if we. I mean, we could even bring somebody, not Jeff. He's been on a couple times. I mean, we could have Jeff. That's fine. I mean, I mean, talk to, I mean, Jen.

01:06:47.59
jmfmedia
Or Jim.

01:06:47.80
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, Jim would be fun.

01:06:49.53
jmfmedia
Hell, even spikes spikes going bonkers with the brewer, the brewer mag stuff.

01:06:54.47
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, I think he has a podcast too now.

01:06:56.95
jmfmedia
Does he almost.

01:06:58.30
Matty Boombalatty
Or he's a guest on one that talks about beer all the time. I don't know if he's actually doing it or just co-hosting or guesting or something.

01:07:05.93
jmfmedia
I can talk about beer all the time, but it'll just be Miller Lite and nobody cares.

01:07:09.78
Matty Boombalatty
I, that is something so, I mean, obviously I don't drink, but that I don't even think I could talk about tea for an hour. Like, and I drink tea all the time.

01:07:20.09
jmfmedia
I drink coffee every day for half of my waking hours and I couldn't talk about coffee all the time.

01:07:24.80
Matty Boombalatty
No, no. In fact, if you had me like three cups of coffee in front of me and had me taste each one, I would be able to tell you that all three are coffee. But other than that, I would have no information.

01:07:37.28
Matty Boombalatty
I'd be like, all right, this one's hot and strong.

01:07:39.75
jmfmedia
Yeah. I'd like to be able, I'd like to think I could tell you if it was French pressed drip, brewed or Keurig.

01:07:46.09
Matty Boombalatty
Hmm.

01:07:47.82
jmfmedia
I think I might be able to get you that, but I couldn't tell you, Oh, this is a, uh, you could, if it's a dark roast, you can tell.

01:07:54.95
Matty Boombalatty
I could, I could only tell you like the strength because I, I specifically tell Mindy like buy whatever coffee you want. We use Keurig, but I say buy whatever you want because it doesn't, I have no taste. I just, I don't even necessarily like it. I just need it. So whatever coffee you get, if it's black, doesn't have any weird flavor to it. I don't care by the cheapest, the most expensive doesn't matter.

01:08:17.56
jmfmedia
We, uh, we're, we're max swell. Oh, no, no. We're Folgers people for the most part.

01:08:21.99
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

01:08:22.73
jmfmedia
Uh, I did buy, I did ask Amy to buy chock full of nuts once, just cause I liked the, uh, name of it. It's funny.

01:08:28.87
Matty Boombalatty
You wanted to be able to tell everyone I'm drinking a chock full of nuts right now.

01:08:32.22
jmfmedia
I wanted to say Amy's cup is chock full of nuts and not be lying.

01:08:38.84
Matty Boombalatty
No. All right. So, um, I'm going to try to start editing this tonight, see if I can get most of it done. And then that way I'll only have to do like a little bit during the week.

01:08:51.10
Matty Boombalatty
Cause I, I, I put it on myself. I started promoting this episode saying next week, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:08:57.02
jmfmedia
Mm hmm.

01:09:01.18
Matty Boombalatty
So the fact that those tweets are out there is going to make me force me to like make time to do it.

01:09:07.87
jmfmedia
Yes, I got the dude's name right. His name is Jermaine and his band is the South.

01:09:10.91
Matty Boombalatty
All right.

01:09:12.46
jmfmedia
I have a picture of me and him, too.

01:09:14.56
Matty Boombalatty
Um, yeah.

01:09:14.68
jmfmedia
If I ever, if I cut a snip out of it, like we edit a snip out to put up, I can, we can do that.

01:09:21.39
Matty Boombalatty
Good.

01:09:22.23
jmfmedia
And also when I talked to, uh, it is Mark from songs that don't suck. I believe that is his name, Mark.

01:09:26.99
Matty Boombalatty
Pretty sure. Yeah.

01:09:28.45
jmfmedia
Uh, he said, I said, we, you know, maybe one day we should, uh, cause he knew exactly who we were.

01:09:33.38
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. Mm hmm.

01:09:34.39
jmfmedia
Um, and, uh, he's like, yeah, I'd be down if you guys want to do something. He's like, just reach out.

01:09:39.70
Matty Boombalatty
That'd be cool. I think we just have to find, because that we'd have to find a specific topic. like Because I would feel weird just having someone on to talk about music. i wouldn't like We'd have to have it fairly structured. And then if it we went off the structure, it'd be fine. But I would want it to be pretty regimented what we were going to do so that A, they felt comfortable and B, if it turned out we were just not really a good like chemistry wise, we just couldn't really talk to them.

01:10:13.86
Matty Boombalatty
We'd still have somewhere to go rather than like, so, you know what I mean?

01:10:17.14
jmfmedia
I think like, like him, I'd have to go and listen to a bunch of his podcasts. But I think, I feel like if we talk to other podcasters, we could just, we could talk about podcasting.

01:10:25.89
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

01:10:28.78
Matty Boombalatty
yeah

01:10:29.83
jmfmedia
And I mean, it's, it's kind of trite, but we could do it.

01:10:30.09
Matty Boombalatty
yeah

01:10:33.00
Matty Boombalatty
Mm-hmm.

01:10:33.72
jmfmedia
Because otherwise, um I mean, I like to think I know a lot about music and I and I do.

01:10:41.10
Matty Boombalatty
You do.

01:10:41.44
jmfmedia
And so do you. But when I listen to these other folks, I am like, I don't know what you guys know.

01:10:42.52
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

01:10:47.64
Matty Boombalatty
They obsess, like they pick everything apart and they're like, so this was recorded in this studio and it was, they use these guitars.

01:10:49.17
jmfmedia
Yeah, and I don't have that.

01:10:56.71
jmfmedia
Yeah, mine is very personal how I talk about it.

01:10:59.44
Matty Boombalatty
Mm-hmm.

01:10:59.80
jmfmedia
It's ahs it's um it's all about my favorite subject, me.

01:11:02.28
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, exactly.

01:11:04.80
jmfmedia
If you wanna know about it, just ask me, I will tell you.

01:11:07.72
Matty Boombalatty
yep

01:11:08.70
jmfmedia
But I think we could talk to them about that type of stuff. I'd really like to figure out a way to, I don't know, it's just, my lazy kicks in big time.

01:11:21.42
jmfmedia
I'd like to talk to people who aren't in our genre of podcasting.

01:11:25.56
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

01:11:25.89
jmfmedia
Like I'd like to talk to somebody who's doing like true crime, but not related to music and figure out a way to talk to to talk to them. Like um there's this girl woman that I follow.

01:11:38.63
jmfmedia
Her name is Autumn and I can't say her last name, right? It's like grooves or grubles, but she does Autumn's Oddcast and it's a it's it's. It's a it's a pretty good, you know, true crime supernaturally, but she's very the way she does.

01:11:55.60
jmfmedia
It's it's produced, but it doesn't sound super produced. Like like somebody like her. I don't know. There's got to be some weird intertwining there.

01:12:04.34
Matty Boombalatty
What would be the tie in like what would be?

01:12:06.67
jmfmedia
That's what I'm trying to figure out, like, hey, what do you think of the monster mash? You know,

01:12:11.44
Matty Boombalatty
And then do we make it where we do all the heavy lifting and they just comment? Like if we were to say, okay, we're going to do a podcast episode about songs that talk about true crime.

01:12:25.81
Matty Boombalatty
And we have our resident expert, Autumn, who has a true crime podcast or whatever, like something as an example.

01:12:32.46
jmfmedia
Like when you're writing a true crime, when you're writing the scripts to do your true crime podcast, let's say you're writing it about the Manson murders and like, is there a list of songs that you think would go along with this? Or is there, like, what's the tie in? Is there a tie in? Like, what do you listen to that make gets you kind of, you know, when you're having writer's block, is there, do you listen to music? Do you just sit silently and, you know, count your chakras? I don't know. What do you do when there's writer block? Can you count your chakras? I don't even really know what a chakra is. It just sounds very new age. And I should say that.

01:13:08.48
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. Uh, yeah, we have to.

01:13:10.33
jmfmedia
Because I'd like to talk to people in vans, but that's it's just like, so you got a new record out, huh?

01:13:14.74
Matty Boombalatty
Right.

01:13:15.10
jmfmedia
um What do you think about the state of public affairs these day?

01:13:15.39
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

01:13:17.82
jmfmedia
Public schools, huh? Crazy. They need money.

01:13:21.03
Matty Boombalatty
Right. And what, um, equipment do you use?

01:13:24.10
jmfmedia
Yeah. Oh, so that's a Gibson guitar, huh?

01:13:26.43
Matty Boombalatty
Do you run it through a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah amp?

01:13:27.18
jmfmedia
Cool.

01:13:29.10
Matty Boombalatty
And do you.

01:13:29.53
jmfmedia
Yeah. Do you have a Mesa Boogie dual rectifier? Because it just sounds dirty if you do. You know, and then it's like, how dumb do you get with somebody you don't know?

01:13:38.66
Matty Boombalatty
rectifier damn near kill her.

01:13:40.88
jmfmedia
I was waiting for it. That's what she said.

01:13:46.82
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. ah Well, all right. We'll have to brainstorm that, but I think, um, I think we should reach out to at least Josh, the punk guy, because he's someone that we've like wanted to do for a while and then it just fell through. And then we kind of gave up on it.

01:14:04.28
jmfmedia
And there's um somebody I don't. Do you remember a guy named ah Jamie Van Efren?

01:14:09.88
Matty Boombalatty
Mm-mm.

01:14:11.54
jmfmedia
I'm friends with him on threads. He's from the UP. He knows Josh and all those guys. Uh, he lives down in Ypsilanti now, but he, yeah, he knows who we are. Like I'm trying to, like he, he knows who, I don't think he knows us, but he knows who we are.

01:14:22.99
Matty Boombalatty
Like he knows.

01:14:29.47
jmfmedia
So I'm like, did he play in some bands around Marquette that we knew or didn't know? Like, cause we knew some of those folks ancillary through like Josh and Kent and all those guys.

01:14:39.20
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah.

01:14:41.10
jmfmedia
I'd like to talk to Kent, but I have no idea how to get ahold of them.

01:14:44.59
Matty Boombalatty
I wonder if Bridget.

01:14:44.96
jmfmedia
I'd love for him to tell me how wrong I am about everything. I think it'd be fun.

01:14:50.07
Matty Boombalatty
That would be a great way to start that episode.

01:14:53.10
jmfmedia
So Kent, how wrong are we about everything?

01:14:56.65
Matty Boombalatty
I'm hoping that you did a little research and listened to our podcast.

01:14:56.93
jmfmedia
You had, you have 30 minutes go.

01:15:00.42
Matty Boombalatty
So now you can tell us how wrong we are about everything.

01:15:04.09
jmfmedia
He would probably be so offended.

01:15:06.03
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah. He'd be like, well, I'm glad you asked. I started a list.

01:15:09.24
jmfmedia
I started a list and ah we'll start it with screw you.

01:15:15.22
Matty Boombalatty
Yeah, Kent would be good. I wonder if Bridget ever talks to him.

01:15:19.82
jmfmedia
I don't know, but I talked to Bridget on Instagram from time to time.

01:15:22.47
Matty Boombalatty
Or Dave Cole. He might talk to Kent.

01:15:25.81
jmfmedia
Oh, Dave Cole.

01:15:28.15
Matty Boombalatty
Why don't you ask Bridget? I'll ask Dave.

01:15:30.50
jmfmedia
He is the Dave. I know, I know.

01:15:32.35
Matty Boombalatty
And then we'll try to get either Kent or Josh. And it doesn't have to be the next one, but we should at least get that ball rolling again to try.

01:15:36.19
jmfmedia
I know.

01:15:40.36
Matty Boombalatty
Cause I think that was fun and they were well-received. Like a lot of our old friends definitely downloaded those quick. Like whenever we had an interview, like they were, Jen was the most popular for, so for a long time.

01:15:50.66
jmfmedia
Yeah. Dave Bridget, um, stone cold, Jen for a long time. You know, she always did come off as the popular girl.

01:16:02.62
Matty Boombalatty
Right.

01:16:03.87
jmfmedia
She always would have been the final girl in the horror movie.

01:16:06.15
Matty Boombalatty
Social butterfly.

01:16:07.52
jmfmedia
Yeah. That is how I would explain her.

01:16:11.03
Matty Boombalatty
All right. Well, I'm going to start editing this monster.

01:16:14.57
jmfmedia
All right. I'm going to go to bed because I have to go into work early tomorrow. So.

01:16:18.99
Matty Boombalatty
Cool. I will keep you posted.

01:16:21.18
jmfmedia
I'll chat at you tomorrow.

01:16:22.35
Matty Boombalatty
All right.

01:16:22.68
jmfmedia
Well, let me hit stop.

01:16:22.71
Matty Boombalatty
Bye.

01:16:23.52
jmfmedia
Let me hit stop.

01:16:23.69
Matty Boombalatty
Oh, yeah.